Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable: October 15, 2020
Topic: Visiting Educational Locations
Photos by Beth Ghostraven
In this VWER session we will visit a few educational locations together and discuss what we find educational about each one, what features we could use in our own educational work, and how we might improve things further. Prepare to be taken out of this world! (though all the locations are in Second Life!)
NOTECARD from Sheila Yoshikawa: VWER 15 October 2020 Educational locations
Topic: “Visiting locations”
We start in VWER while people gather, and introduce ourselves. Sheila will explain the process of today’s session.
**** Visit to the Moon Landing exhibit
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/National%20Space%20Society/50/100/3675
We’ll spend 5 minutes looking round the location then gather to discuss (n.b. gather at the landing point, for the discussion)
a. The positive. What works well in this installation? Is there anything you could learn from for any teaching or facilitating you do?
b. The negative. What did you not like about it, from a personal or an educational perspective? What could be added?
**** Visit to Fukushima Future
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/The%20Science%20Circle/180/62/4013
Unfortunately this has a forced landing point (you can’t tp direct to Fukushima). When you arrive, please stay roughly where you are until we’ve all tped to that point – the board where you can teleport to the Fukushima installation is close by.
Once we arrive, we’ll spend 5 minutes looking round the location then gather to discuss (n.b. gather in the cafe/hut in the middle, for the discussion)
1. The positive. What works well in this installation? Is there anything you could learn from for any teaching or facilitating you do?
2. The negative. What did you not like about it, from a personal or an educational perspective? What could be added?
**** Visit to Nutrician Center
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Inspiration%20Island/94/94/701
We’ll spend 5 minutes looking round the location then gather to discuss (n.b. gather in the cafe/hut in the middle, for the discussion)
1. The positive. What works well in this Center? Is there anything you could learn from for any teaching or facilitating you do?
2. The negative. What did you not like about it, from a personal or an educational perspective? What could be added?
**** Visit to Macchu Pichu (if we have time)
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Second%20USMP/165/46/45
We’ll spend 5 minutes looking round the location then gather to discuss (n.b. gather at the landing point, for the discussion)
1. The positive. What works well in this build? What might it be used for?
2. The negative. What did you not like about it, from a personal or an educational perspective? What could be added?
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Sheila Yoshikawa: I am going to do my normal introduction and we will introduce ourselves
Elli Pinion Hi Shiloh!
Sheila Yoshikawa: then after that we will visit a few locations to discuss their good and bad points
Sheila Yoshikawa: I will explain after the introductions
Sheila Yoshikawa: Hi everyone, and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable. We meet on Thursdays at 12 noon SLT for an hour.
VWER is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education in virtual worlds.
This is a public meeting, so we will be keeping and publishing a transcript in due course. The transcripts can be found at https://vwer.info/ .
Sheila Yoshikawa: The VWER continues to develop a community of educators from around the world. Please join the VWER group here in SL.
If you are on Facebook please join our group there http://www.facebook.com/groups/159154226946/
Sheila Yoshikawa: The topic for this week’s meeting will be:
Sheila Yoshikawa: Visiting educational/informative locations to discuss their good and less good aspects
Sheila Yoshikawa: It will be in text chat.
Sheila Yoshikawa: First let’s start by introducing ourselves. Please type as much or as little about yourself as you want to, in text chat.
Just type in all at once.
Ithela: I’m Ithela. English-speaker. Fairly new to SL.
PI (pi.illios): Hi everyone My name is Virtual Reference Librarian & Library Website Content Developer & Administrator in The Conrado F. Asenjo Library at University of Puerto Rico’s Medical Sciences Campus https://www.upr.edu/biblioteca-rcm (Spanish language website). I am from Puerto Rico
ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Selby Evans, blogger
The entrepreneurial school. Beyond online classes. The online campus: student rooms, team workrooms, libraries, museums
https://virtualoutworlding.blogspot.com/2020/10/2020-vwedu-entrepreneurial-school.html
Immersive language learning and: Why would you do a presentation this way? Use the powers of the Digitals.
https://virtualoutworlding.blogspot.com/2020/10/2020-vwedu-immersive-language-learning.html
OpenSimulator Community Conference 2020 Call for Proposals
Empire State College (ESC) virtual residency Oct 10.
https://sites.google.com/view/immersive-vr-residency/home
MOOC20 Virtual world education on the web. “Lessons Learned” from a university’s master course held in a web based virtual world environment.
https://virtualoutworlding.blogspot.com/2020/10/2020-vwedu-mooc20-virtual-world.html
Era of the entrepreneurial educator. The unbundling of education opens the gate for entrepreneurs.
https://virtualoutworlding.blogspot.com/2020/10/2020-vwedu-dta-era-of-entrepreneurial.html
Looking around the campus: Virtual Learning Village
https://virtualoutworlding.blogspot.com/2020/10/2020-vwedu-looking-around-campus.html
Ember (emberell): Hi, I’m ember! I am fluffy. I do my best to try to help people in SL, new and old. :>
Marly (marly.milena): Niela Miller , http://www.peoplesystemspotential .
Elli Pinion: Becky Adams from the University of New Mexico.
Briony (brionyblack): I’m Briony I work in the public sector in Scotland. I want to learn more about virtual worlds and conferencing tools.
Maggie Larimore: Maggie Larimore (in RL Nan Zingrone), land manager in the Chilbo Neighborhood, co-organizer of the annual Virtual Worlds MOOC, 10-year student of Spanish with Eugenia (blame me for my bad Spanish), and a Psych Prof at Northcentral University (RL)
Meryl McBride: Meryl McBride, Colorado State University
Sheila Yoshikawa: I teach and research at the Information School, Sheffield University, England. Bit tired from online teaching and meetings today! I also lead VWER and own this island
Marly (marly.milena): I have a group in SL called Octagon:Creative Exploration for folks who like programs combining art, psychology and education.
Valibrarian Gregg: Valerie Hill, Director https://communityvirtuallibrary.org/ Information Science researcher https://about.me/valibrarian
perrogato (artistopg27): hola a todos soy perrogato de chile y soy nuevo en el grupo y el mundo de la educación
artistopg27 Resident: Hello everyone, I am a perrogato from Chile and I am new to the group and the world of education
Sheila Yoshikawa: I realise I should have added 2 other landmarks / credits to the notecard – places I looked when I was selecting today’s locations
PI (pi.illios): Hola Perrogato
perrogato (artistopg27): y me gusta aprender
artistopg27 Resident: I enjoy learning
Shiloh Emmons: Hello everyone, My name is Shiloh Emmons, I am a researcher and curator, I have worked in the Art & Tourism field for 30 years, specialized in ethnographic art, hands-on training in museums (from the Georgia Okeeffe to the SAR : School for Advanced Research , the anthropology institute), while I lived in Santa fe, NM. I did learn Navajo when I thought that working on the Navajo Nation reservation with economic development issues. Currently, In SL, I have put my endeavors to create museum grade exhibits on hold. Future work is on a museum grade Art learning project..
perrogato (artistopg27): hola pi
artistopg27 Resident: Hi Pi.
Ember (emberell): Hola, Perrogato. Bienvenido ❤
Valibrarian Gregg: Nice translation perragato! Hola! Where did you get your translation tool?
Shiloh Emmons: and.. my background is in Ethnology…
Sheila Yoshikawa: N.B. this is not where we are going, these are 2 places I looked when I was trying to decide where to go
Sheila Yoshikawa: Chilbo (135,78,3502) Expedition Central
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Chilbo/135/78/3502
Sheila Yoshikawa: and
Elli Pinion: Wow, you learned Navajo? That’s impressive, Shiloh.
Briony (brionyblack) agrees it’s very impressive
Sheila Yoshikawa: Cookie (79,70,21) Yan’s landmarks at CVL
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Cookie/79/70/21
Shiloh Emmons: yes.. ya’ata’ah…
Sheila Yoshikawa: thanks everyone for introducing yourselves!
Shiloh Emmons: Chilbo is an excellent resource location
Shiloh Emmons: I go there often for LMs to places to see in SL
Elli Pinion: Should we add them to our notecards, Sheila?
Valibrarian Gregg: Yan shares tours monthly on the 2nd Friday at 7am SLT– next one is Nov 13th
Sheila Yoshikawa: I selected these three places because they were ones where hopefully people won’t get lost, and they seemed to me to have good points and also points that could be improved
Sheila Yoshikawa: You will see the locations on the card
Shiloh Emmons: *nods
Maggie Larimore: I saw Expedition and Yan’s spot. Did I miss the third?
Shiloh Emmons: also may I add
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Maggie
Shiloh Emmons: I just attended the HealthInfo Island…
Sheila Yoshikawa: they are NOT where we are going
Sheila Yoshikawa: sorry
Sheila Yoshikawa: they are where I quarried the locations!
Shiloh Emmons: may I pass that LM to you, too, Sheila?
Sheila Yoshikawa: so good resources
Shiloh Emmons: we had an anthropology meeting there..
Maggie Larimore: oh sorry!
Sheila Yoshikawa: lol no my bad
Sheila Yoshikawa: I have listed 4, but I think we will only get to 3 locations
Maggie Larimore: hadn’t picked up the notecard yet and glancing that’s what it looked like
Sheila Yoshikawa: depends whether people have anything to say!
Shiloh Emmons: yes but future visitors might want to check out that place as well
Sheila Yoshikawa: The AIM is to think critically about what helps people learn and the way information gets displayed!
Sheila Yoshikawa: OK
Sheila Yoshikawa: First location is the moon
Maggie Larimore: the notecard is great
Shiloh Emmons: I was not aware how much health content was there
Sheila Yoshikawa: National Space Society (50,100,3675)
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/National%20Space%20Society/50/100/3675
Maggie Larimore: and those aren’t places I’ve ever been so yay
Ember (emberell): Do we need space suits?
Sheila Yoshikawa: please go to THAT landmark, start looking round, what do you like/not like
Sheila Yoshikawa: there are some free ones there!
Maggie Larimore: oh well, I have been at Machu Picchu, if you take Spanish with Eugenia there are a lot of field trips
Elli Pinion: ok…got it. Thanks!
Ember (emberell): I’m not sure they come in my size!
Valibrarian Gregg adds her space helmet
Sheila Yoshikawa: you have enough oxygen til you find the suits
Ember (emberell) grins.
Sheila Yoshikawa: National Space Society (50,100,3675)
Valibrarian Gregg: IM me if you want a copy of my space helmet from NPC 😉
Second Life: Teleport completed from Infolit iSchool (233,18,22)
perrogato (artistopg27): bien lugar para la educacion
artistopg27 Resident: good place for education
Ember (emberell): there is a lot of interesting information provided, though it all seems very spread out
Ember (emberell): It may be initially challenging for someone to discern exactly what they’re looking at
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: As you look round please think about the questions we discuss in 5 minutes – what do you like or not like – in educational or personal terms – but explore for the next few minutes!
Briony (brionyblack): the music seems very inappropriate. It jarrs
Shiloh Emmons: there is a lack of connection between installations
Sheila Yoshikawa: I have music switched off!
Ember (emberell): Oh I didn’t even think about the music…
Ember (emberell): That’s a good point. Local streams are part of an atmosphere
Shiloh Emmons: usually I keep music off, but I agree, the music does nothing for the exhibit(s)
Briony (brionyblack) has the music switched off now
Shiloh Emmons: there is a lack of focus here
Shiloh Emmons: nothing is centralized
Shiloh Emmons: the flow is haphazard
Elli Pinion: The music adds to the “atmosphere”
Ember (emberell): There are many things outside of the standard render distance too
Ember (emberell): Though mine is usually higher, it looks quite empty at first
Valibrarian Gregg: Freebies over here by me!!!
Elli Pinion: Oh sorry, that was media
Maggie Larimore: the one that’s farthest away is transport to the moon or mars and that’s pretty cool
perrogato (artistopg27): pi que te parese
artistopg27 Resident: pi to stop you
Elli Pinion: Students love freebies
Maggie Larimore: you’ve got fly to see everything though because omg the walking distance
perrogato (artistopg27): que te parece
artistopg27 Resident: How about
Ember (emberell): It is fitting for the moon, but many in SL do not have the attention span for that
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: OK – please gather now at the place where we started
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: I know some people have already shared but – what do you LIKE about this installation? what works?
Valibrarian Gregg: Educational resources like https://bit.ly/34X9vaK
Ember (emberell): The visual displays are good.
Shiloh Emmons: the content/ media is useful..
Ember (emberell): It’s engaging at first. It does encourage staying to learn more, for those who are interested
PI (pi.illios): The simulators
Ember (emberell): The design is VERY on theme.
Sheila Yoshikawa: I liked that there were recreations of the spaceship, the landing
Marly (marly.milena): Nice video (The Eagle Has Landed) by Leslie Fish–good song
Ember (emberell): The models look very well rendered as well
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Ember yes, it IS a moon’s surface, I like that it is self-contained
Shiloh Emmons: yes, the models/ 3D are excellent
perrogato (artistopg27): habia escuchado que la luna era de queso
Briony (brionyblack): The replica of Apollo 11 is reasonable
ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Like: the vehicles we can enter and look around
Ember (emberell): Everything visible is on theme, more or less
Shiloh Emmons: I like the texture of the ground, moon floor
Sheila Yoshikawa: there are free spacesuits, though not sure how good
Ember (emberell): I have stolen the hat from the free spacesuit
Sheila Yoshikawa: 😉
Sheila Yoshikawa: any more things people liked?
PI (pi.illios): And the lounge and dormitories in the last spaceship
Maggie Larimore: Like the vehicles, especially the lounge and dormitories that Pi mentioned
Marly (marly.milena): I am dying to put up colorful art against the black surface! LOL
Sheila Yoshikawa: it suits you Ember
Ember (emberell) mimics darth vader
Sheila Yoshikawa: lol Marly
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: OK things you didn’t like?
Marly (marly.milena): Glad I don’t have to live on the moon. Depressing
Ember (emberell): i think my favorite part is the central dome. The design is eye catching and to the point
Shiloh Emmons: just the overall lack of cohesion and lack of connection..
Sheila Yoshikawa: I noticed that it was advertising events that already happened
PI (pi.illios): Unless that’s the way in the moon too much space between things
Shiloh Emmons: agrees with Pi
Sheila Yoshikawa: I would have liked a map or something here for orientation
Briony (brionyblack): it seems quite haphazard. Disorganised.
Maggie Larimore: didn’t like the distance, the walking distance is too long for a group tour
Marly (marly.milena): Needs a moon docent
Maggie Larimore: a teleport board might be fine
Ember (emberell): Yes. The advertisements and overall signage is somewhat un maintained. I was completely unable to find an info notecard for the location, for example, though it is easy to determine from what is available
Sheila Yoshikawa: I rather liked that I had to explore to find things, but I would have liked an overview of what there was to find
Maggie Larimore: lots of groups don’t have the people to keep things up to do
Valibrarian Gregg: or…perhaps some “pathway” to guide us
Briony (brionyblack) agrees teleport board useful.
Ember (emberell): One of my first instincts is to look for a local rule notecard, and info sheet, so I know if I should be in theme
Maggie Larimore: (er uh like Chilbo which is my fault)
Shiloh Emmons: or a central vision, with a little education history of the models circling a central focus… would have helped..
Sheila Yoshikawa: I was disappointed I couldn’t get into the landing pod
Maggie Larimore: I agree with Shiloh an organizing principle
Ember (emberell): The map here is cute, but I feel ineffective
Shiloh Emmons: and, of course, bring in multi media to help enrich (I am big on integrating multimedia integration)
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Ember agreed, I had thought it was just decoration
Marly (marly.milena): Who will be getting all this valuable feedback?
Shiloh Emmons: that was my main emphasis on the exhibit that I had created..
Briony (brionyblack): The surface of the moon is very bright, it would be more appealing if the surface was brighter.
Sheila Yoshikawa: I won’t try and sum all that people said up, but it raises some good points about organisation, orientation, colour – also that people don’t all respond to the same things
Ember (emberell): I mentioned this at first, but the overall layout is quite barren. I like it, but I feel it may lose wanderers in SL
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Marly I suppose I could feed it back
Sheila Yoshikawa: Also – one plus point for all these locations is that I didn’t have to ask anyone if we could tour!
Marly (marly.milena): I think they would be very grateful. A free assessment of their sim!!!!
Maggie Larimore: the moon is quite barren though, so I think that’s important to have
Maggie Larimore: just a better way to get around
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Shiloh take your points
Ember (emberell): Oh yes, one thing I do like! It’s all very open. Inviting to explore
Sheila Yoshikawa: moon buggy @Maggie?
Ember (emberell): They may benefit from a teleporter actually
Valibrarian Gregg: yes! We should have a lunar vehicle!!
Sheila Yoshikawa: that would be feasible
Maggie Larimore: oh that would be fantastic!
Maggie Larimore: a buggy!
Ember (emberell): Encourage students to wander from exhibits, but also a list that takes you places with informative names
Sheila Yoshikawa: OK onwards to the next venue!
Maggie Larimore: good idea Ember
Ember (emberell): A buggy would be very cool, but it may not function on the local point
Marly (marly.milena): This makes me think that those of us who have created areas on sims or whole sims might enjoy having this group come and assess it in a similar way!
Ember (emberell): (mesh doesn’t always behave well on sky platforms)
Briony (brionyblack): A lunar vehicle that takes passengers to locations like SL trains and trams.
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: The next location is Fukushima Future – Unfortunately this has a forced landing point (you can’t tp direct to Fukushima). When you arrive, please stay roughly where you are until we’ve all tped to that point – the board where you can teleport to the Fukushima installation is close by.
Shiloh Emmons: [12:29:50] Shiloh Emmons: have to be cautious though, Marly
[12:30:07] Shiloh Emmons: when I set up an exhibit, I am very controlled about how it plays out…
[12:30:22] Shiloh Emmons: not everyone does that… nor understands the need for a unifying concept..
[12:30:39] Shiloh Emmons: some people who create sims.. get a tad sensitive..
Sheila Yoshikawa: Please stay close to this location, when we are all there we can go to the actual installation
Sheila Yoshikawa: The Science Circle (180,62,4013)
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/The%20Science%20Circle/180/62/4013
ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I use double-click TP — don’t need a better way to get around.
Marly (marly.milena): I understand. It would be voluntary!
Sheila Yoshikawa: I must say I don’t like fixed landing points
perrogato (artistopg27): encuentro interesante lo que ofrece este lugar
artistopg27 Resident: I find it interesting what this place has to offer
Sheila Yoshikawa: so please now go to The Science Circle (180,62,4013) and then wait a moment for us all
Sheila Yoshikawa: Stranger and Beth I am moving on now
Stranger Nightfire on fixed landing points jumps up and down and rants angrily
Second Life: Teleport completed from National Space Society (55,104,3675)
Wisdomseeker (lissena): Mulberry tea!
Maggie Larimore: very cool!
Maggie Larimore: got to run! ooo cute didn’t know those guys were cows!
Maggie Larimore: LOL
Maggie Larimore: see you soon!
Beth Ghostraven: tc Maggie!
perrogato (artistopg27): interesante el lugar
artistopg27 Resident: interesting place
Wisdomseeker (lissena): they look sort of Mexican to me
Sheila Yoshikawa: cute how they move their heads!
Shiloh Emmons: very good integration of multimedia with dense content
Marly (marly.milena): And they moo!
Shiloh Emmons: the sitting is a little tricky to navigate but overall, an exceptional installation..
Wisdomseeker (lissena): Is the message conveying that all is well?
Shiloh Emmons: I like this poem too
Sheila Yoshikawa: perhaps over by the cows is easier for gathering
Elli Pinion: They do look mexican. Interesting.
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: OK – what do people LIKE about this?
Marly (marly.milena): Haha, we already gave a lot of feedback!
Ember (emberell): There is clearly careful design put in to account for multiple visitors, and the various paths people may take while appreciating the build.
perrogato (artistopg27): yo lo veo muy didactico
Shiloh Emmons: i don’t know if I saw the cows as mexican
PI (pi.illios): It has the beauty and creativity of their culture
Sheila Yoshikawa: lol @Marly I missed it!
Elli Pinion: Colorful, beautiful, rich content
Ember (emberell): It;s colorful, eye-catching, and informative. The information about the build is there where you land, and everything is visible and accessible
Sheila Yoshikawa: feel free to repost
Shiloh Emmons: for a small space, it is laid out well
Shiloh Emmons: a lot of interactive features
Sheila Yoshikawa: I liked that it feels that it is an installation about Japan by Japanese
Shiloh Emmons: nods
Ember (emberell): There is some care put into making sure the information is laid out in a compact way.
Shiloh Emmons: a Very Emic perspective is captured
PI (pi.illios): nods
Ember (emberell): And there is a handy spot to relax in the center. Besides the various bits of entertainment around
Sheila Yoshikawa: a lot of engaging illustrations, all relevant, different aspects of culture
Ember (emberell): Like the popular cows!
Shiloh Emmons: it feels grounded, well thought out
Ember (emberell): Something small and cute can go a long way to retaining visitor interest
Beth Ghostraven: It’s interesting that the big sign here is an ad for Fukushima funded by a relief fund from Kuwait
Sheila Yoshikawa: I liked all the links to google maps, a real sense of place
Shiloh Emmons: i noticed that
Sheila Yoshikawa: hadn’t spotted that @Beth!!
Ember (emberell): All of the displays seem to have links to external resources, too.
Ember (emberell): Or most of the ones I interacted with
Shiloh Emmons: it is also a good effort by Kuwait to be or act more humanitarian
Sheila Yoshikawa: Japan is probably a good trading partner….
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: What do people NOT like?
Sheila Yoshikawa: A couple of the links didn’t work
Ember (emberell): It is rather overwhelming at first.
Beth Ghostraven shouts: hard to navigate, both to get here, and while you are here
Shiloh Emmons: only the sitting at the Japanese cafe..but aesthetically it is pleasing
Sheila Yoshikawa: and I would have liked an easier route “out”
ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Fixed landing point
Ember (emberell): The fixed landing point makes it difficult to engage with too
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Se;lby actually the fixed landing point is what I found most irritating
Ember (emberell): And like many said, the compact nature makes it difficult to navigate, or to understand a sense of flow. What is offered where? Why is this spot different?
Marly (marly.milena): For me, cluttered with too much info about too many things. I would have liked a board or library where I could click on the exhibits I could possibly understand
Ember (emberell): Clutter being the name of the game.
Shiloh Emmons: an Orientation video might help
Ember (emberell): Everything has been compacted and there’s little breathing room between signs
ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I avoid places with fixed landing points
Ember (emberell): The center makes up for that some…
Stranger Nightfire: again the fixed landing point combined with a lack of place you could do a sit TP to is very annoying
Shiloh Emmons: a kind of Arrigato, hello, this is what we are about and how it is set up
Sheila Yoshikawa: so should it have less content? or be bigger (perhaps connected circles?)
Sheila Yoshikawa: better introduction at the start?
Ember (emberell): I think it should be a bit broader. More space between things, so that objects are not as tightly packed
Shiloh Emmons: places to sit would be nice..
Sheila Yoshikawa: oh yes sorry Shiloh you mentioned an intro video
Shiloh Emmons: yes, I was an advocate for that at the exhibit I created…
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Shiloh yes the cafe is awkward to get into
Marly (marly.milena): Maybe an artistic poster at entry to each cluster with a small pictogram and a one sentence description
Ember (emberell): the center is a good space to sit if needs be… I may also recommend more guidance,. as I think the progression starts on the left?
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: Who likes this more than the moon?
Shiloh Emmons: segmentation helps.. sitting helps.. but overall..
Shiloh Emmons: I like this hands down over the moon
Ember (emberell): The overall open plan and noise of the area makes it easy to miss the original blue arrow
Marly (marly.milena): Yes, more than moon
Marly (marly.milena): More lively
Shiloh Emmons: there is a lot of content.. but excellent integration of multimedia into it to help
Ember (emberell): I quite appreciate this build though. For its flaws, it is engaging, interesting, and has much attention paid to its own layout
Elli Pinion: They are completely opposite
Marly (marly.milena): Like the planes moving around
PI (pi.illios): I like this one more
Ember (emberell): I feel the challenge with spacing may be a cultural one
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: Anyone like the moon MORE?
Ember (emberell): So I do not begrudge it too much
Stranger Nightfire: it is certainly more educational and informative that the moon
Shiloh Emmons: i maybe would have liked a little more Japan culture… plants.. something to humanize it
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Ember good point!
Elli Pinion: The space one fits what that should look like, this one, too.
Sheila Yoshikawa: we could also see whether we have different reactions depending on our own cultural feelings about space
Shiloh Emmons: controlling space, yes, good point, Elli, and Ember.. spacing is important
Shiloh Emmons: adding culture to make it relatable
Ember (emberell): The mood had too much spacing… but it WAS in space :>
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: FINAL DESTINATION – it is the most enclosed so we can do it quickly
Shiloh Emmons: it is very hard to curate an exhibit well…..
Sheila Yoshikawa: Inspiration Island (94,94,701)
http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Inspiration%20Island/94/94/701
Marly (marly.milena): Also, everything is on one plane. Some exhibits could have been on another level with ramps
Sheila Yoshikawa: Please move on now to Inspiration Island (94,94,701)
perrogato (artistopg27): que opinan caballeros y damas
artistopg27 Resident: who think gentlemen and ladies
Second Life: Teleport completed from The Science Circle (226,36,4001)
Sheila Yoshikawa: OK just take a couple of minutes to look round
Sheila Yoshikawa: and I think we’ll hear each other if we just give our reactions as we go
Wisdomseeker (lissena): This was built by Star a
Shiloh Emmons: oi
perrogato (artistopg27): aca he estado
artistopg27 Resident: here I’ve been
perrogato (artistopg27): estas semanas
artistopg27 Resident: these weeks
Wisdomseeker (lissena): She has researched plant-based diets
Sheila Yoshikawa: Inspiration Island is a popular place ;-)))
Marly (marly.milena): This is just one little piece of this sim. I have a three level parcel here which includes the Butterfly Gallery
Shiloh Emmons: great content.. presentation a bit overwhelming
Briony (brionyblack): I like this very much. Straightaway you can see materials that are useful.
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Wisdomseeker (lissena): Sta is one of them
Elli Pinion: Love the music….very soothing
Briony (brionyblack): Butterfly gallery wonderful.
Wisdomseeker (lissena): I will pass on to her all your comments lol
Ember (emberell): If I’m in the way, someone just nudge me
perrogato (artistopg27): todo estos lugares son bellos en educacion
Ember (emberell): I may be a bit big, haha
Shiloh Emmons: but I do not see any multi media integration
Ember (emberell): Nudge me, even
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: OK people – good points?
Shiloh Emmons: sitting places might help.
Ember (emberell): Lots of information. All of it visible
Shiloh Emmons: but colorful, great content
Sheila Yoshikawa: obvious it is about food
PI (pi.illios): Informative, colorful posters
Ember (emberell): I also appreciate any place that has doors big enough to let me walk in without scrunching up
Wisdomseeker (lissena): LOL
Sheila Yoshikawa: bounded area so you don’t get lost
Briony (brionyblack): You can immediately see then healthy recipes … practical information is immediately accessible,
Ember (emberell): It has a welcome notecard on arrival, so you know about who runs the area & etc.
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: and things you don’t like?
Ember (emberell): Like the moon build, there’s no clear start area. Nor any information board about the build. It is rather… hodge podge
PI (pi.illios): I don’t know I like it
Ithela: Difficult to know where to start.
Ember (emberell): I feel that may be the point, but my eyes sort of glazed over at so many things
Sheila Yoshikawa: Shiloh mentioned ” I do not see any multimedia integration”
Shiloh Emmons: also.. a tad overwhelming
Sheila Yoshikawa: yes I find the large number of posters a bit overwhelming
Shiloh Emmons: I would put the HIppocrates point UP Front.. because it is the unifying idea
Shiloh Emmons: then…
Ember (emberell): Yeah, I agree, Shiloh.
Sheila Yoshikawa: I think the recipe wall is good, but some of the other posters are more difficult to read, and you aren’t sure whether to click or not
Sheila Yoshikawa: sorry!
Ember (emberell): A clear beginning area with some information for people who may not know what this is all about (or may offer them) may help
Shiloh Emmons: Of course I am a big proponent of juicing for health
Shiloh Emmons: and smoothies
Briony (brionyblack): There are links to healthy living videos over here.
Shiloh Emmons: and.. of course. mushrooms
PI (pi.illios): Maybe the scientific evidence of the diet? Or am I thinking as a medical librarian?
Ember (emberell): More quiet space between posters would be beneficial, also – the building could stand to be bigger to make room, though I do like the thought someone pointed out that it is enclosed
Ember (emberell): No thoughts of “Well, is that part of the build?”
Shiloh Emmons: the flow is a little choppy… I agree Pi.. some medical links….medical evidence …
Beth Ghostraven: or maybe, like in some vendors, have a way to scroll through the different recipes
Shiloh Emmons: the Lancet comes first to mind
Sheila Yoshikawa: I find the colour not so good – that shade of mustard – something like a pale lemon or pale green I would find fresher?
Briony (brionyblack): links to nutrition blogs.
Shiloh Emmons: the a listing os some of the journals on health and nutrition
Shiloh Emmons: agreed, Sheila
Shiloh Emmons: mustard takes away from it
Ember (emberell): At least mustard is mostly plant based.
Shiloh Emmons: yes but everything mushes together
Ember (emberell): Yeah
Sheila Yoshikawa: it is too near a queasy colour for me …..
Briony (brionyblack): I’m going to try some of the recipes … pictures are yummy.
Ember (emberell): IT blends a bit too much with some posters and makes it harder to parse
Beth Ghostraven: yellow and orange make people hungry, so maybe those bright colors…
Shiloh Emmons: nods…
Briony (brionyblack): so which colours would be better?
Sheila Yoshikawa: so again some good, some things we think we could improve!
Shiloh Emmons: my feeling was.. first landing.. overwhelming because of the mixed organization
Ember (emberell): There is a lot of good information here, once you do get into it
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Liss if you pass this on please stress it is constructive criticism!
Shiloh Emmons: or lack of solid organization
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: THANKS EVERYONE!
Ember (emberell): Yes! We aren’t coming in to bash the build. It’s good work. A lot of heart has gone into this ❤
Shiloh Emmons: more multimedia integration helps
Marly (marly.milena): All this floor space could be used to model some of the tasties three dimensionally
Shiloh Emmons: this is a great first effort for her..
Briony (brionyblack): I don’t like the design of the chairs, but I’ve never liked that style of chair.
Sheila Yoshikawa: As I said the aim was to join in some critique – hopefully also some reflections for our own installations!
Shiloh Emmons: I also feel a bit caged in with the ceiling
PI (pi.illios): Overall I like it Maybe I am a as overwhelming as you feel in it
Beth Ghostraven: oh, I love Windsor chairs like that :o)
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: THAT’S IT FOR TODAY!
Wisdomseeker (lissena): I have to attend another program of ours–someone please save me the comments?
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: Thanks for the great comments!
Shiloh Emmons: the rug fights with the displays though
PI (pi.illios): Thank you Sheila
Beth Ghostraven: Sheila, thank you so much! This was a great field trip!
Sheila Yoshikawa: hope you found it interesting
Marly (marly.milena): Ember,can you give people rides on your back?
Briony (brionyblack): that was really interesting Sheila thank you.
Marly (marly.milena): LOL
Shiloh Emmons: needs a more neutral rug, less ornamental
Ember (emberell): Not yet!
Shiloh Emmons: but great content…
Sheila Yoshikawa: @Liss will do
Shiloh Emmons: just needs some elbow grease..
Ember (emberell): I could probably set up my saddle to work on this avatar, hehe
Marly (marly.milena): Haha
Sheila Yoshikawa: yes, great content, the recipes read nicely
perrogato (artistopg27): ahora regresamos a vwer
artistopg27 Resident: now we’re back to vwer
Sheila Yoshikawa shouts: SEE YOU NEXT WEEK, I HOPE!
Ember (emberell): Thanks again, Sheila!
PI (pi.illios): Take care everyone!
Briony (brionyblack): tc Sheila!
Beth Ghostraven: oh! it’s THAT Ember! I’m so glad to see you here!
Sheila Yoshikawa: Bye all
Ember (emberell): Hello, Beth! ❤
Ember (emberell): I’m glad I could make it!
Ember (emberell): I’ve been meaning to, just so busy sometimes!
Beth Ghostraven: Ember is the reason I have beams in my pub
Ember (emberell): She was so kind to give me places to perch ❤
Sheila Yoshikawa: Oh another improvement would be non-USA weights and measures
Ember (emberell): OH yes I hadn’t even noticed the measurements.
Sheila Yoshikawa: Nice to see you Ember! You would always be welcome at VWER
perrogato (artistopg27): yo le veo mucho potencial al vwer
artistopg27 Resident: I see a lot of potential for the vwer
Shiloh Emmons: good to see everyone..
perrogato (artistopg27): son geniales
artistopg27 Resident: They’re really nice.
Shiloh Emmons: stay well, be safe.. and.. Namaste
Sheila Yoshikawa: I’d better go now!
Sheila Yoshikawa: yes you all stay safe!
Ember (emberell): Do take care, Sheila
Sheila Yoshikawa: bye!
perrogato (artistopg27): que tal el viaje
artistopg27 Resident: how was the trip
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Ember (emberell): I’m going to hop back to Oxbridge for now. Take care friends ❤
Beth Ghostraven: take care, great to see you!
Based on a work at http://vwer.info.
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