2018-08-16 “Educators’ experiences of virtual worlds” panel session jointly with VWMOOC

16-08-18 vwer_002Transcript of the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable: August 16 2018
Topic:  “Educators’ experiences of virtual worlds”
Lightly edited for typos by Sheila Yoshikawa; photo by Sheila Yoshikawa 

Note: This was a joint session with VWMOOC, chaired by Sheila Yoshikawa. The panellists were as follows 

(1) Heike Philp. Heike is CEO of let’s talk online sprl which provides technology support for language learning and events in real-time via the internet. She was managing director of LANCELOT, an accredited teacher training center for synchronous language teaching by means of virtual technology/worlds.

(2) Dr Evelyn McElhinney (Kali Pizarro in Second Life) Lecturer in the department of Nursing and Community Health at Glasgow Caledonian University, Scotland. She has taught extensively in SL, is co-lead of VWER and her PhD was on Living in 3D Social Virtual Worlds and the Influence on Health Literacy, Health Behaviour and Wellbeing;

(3) Niela Miller http://www.peoplesystemspotential.com/index.php (Marly Milena in SL) is a Gestalt therapist, composer, musician, artist, actor, educator, trainer, coach, and facilitator and has been teaching and creating in Second Life since 2007.

There is a video of the event at https://youtu.be/RFBF-R2UOno

[2018/08/16 12:04] Sheila Yoshikawa: Hi everyone, and welcome to the Virtual Worlds Education Roundtable. We meet on Thursdays at 12 noon SLT for an hour. 8pm In UK, 3pm EST. VWER is a forum to educate and inform the community about issues that are important and relevant to education in virtual worlds. This is a public meeting, so we will be keeping and publishing a transcript. The transcripts can be found at https://vwer.info/ The VWER continues to develop a community of educators from around the world.
[2018/08/16 12:04] Gann McGann: hi kali
[2018/08/16 12:04] Maggie Larimore: no no
[2018/08/16 12:04] Gann McGann: lol!
[2018/08/16 12:05] Maggie Larimore: we’re so happy to have him in the VWMOOC this year!
[2018/08/16 12:05] Maggie Larimore: hey Christian!
[2018/08/16 12:05] Maggie Larimore: welcome VWMOOCers and everybody else of course
[2018/08/16 12:05] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): in my android
[2018/08/16 12:05] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:05] Sheila Yoshikawa: Please join the VWER group here in SL. If you are on Facebook, or Google+ please join our group there. Our group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/groups/159154226946/, and our Google+ community at https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/101630374387475211030
[2018/08/16 12:06] Miss Basque (berdaxagar): Hi again!
[2018/08/16 12:06] Sheila Yoshikawa: Today’s session is a joint session with VWMOOC, and so welcome to our MOOC learners and educators who are here.
[2018/08/16 12:06] Maggie Larimore: thank you Sheila!
[2018/08/16 12:06] Sheila Yoshikawa: Hi again
[2018/08/16 12:06] Sheila Yoshikawa: We will today have a panel. It will be mostly in voice, but I will roughly transcribe where people have not got their own text notes – please be tolerant of my typos!
[2018/08/16 12:06] Sheila Yoshikawa: Please introduce yourselves in text chat – all type in at once – so we have an idea of who you are – but don’t feel obliged to say where you are based or what your name is in the physical world, unless you want to.
[2018/08/16 12:07] Sheila Yoshikawa: do that now!
[2018/08/16 12:07] Sheila Yoshikawa: So I will be chairing the session today. I have three questions and I will pose the questions one at a time, and each panellist will answer that same question, then we will pause briefly to pick up questions after everyone’s responded to that question.
[2018/08/16 12:07] ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Selby Evans, Blogger, Optimize Your GetEdFunding Grant Search https://blog.getedfunding.com/optimize-your-getedfunding-grant-search/
[2018/08/16 12:07] Sheila Yoshikawa: I’ll just explain while you are doing that
[2018/08/16 12:07] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): great to see you hear Selby
[2018/08/16 12:07] Maggie Larimore: Maggie Larimore (Nan Zingrone in RL), co-organizer of VWMOOC with Nellie Deustch and Doris Molero, psych Prof at Northcentral University and in SL curator of the VWMOOCHQ, the AZIRE Library and Learning Center and the Chilbo Public LIbrary
[2018/08/16 12:08] Zo (zotarah.shepherd): I have been out of SL for a long time, was very active in Educational groups before and and am glad to be back
[2018/08/16 12:08] Gann McGann: mark childs from the open university – once a regular here, now irregular but happy to be back 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:08] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): Christian PhD candidate in educational technology
[2018/08/16 12:08] Maggie Larimore: Zo so great to see you!
[2018/08/16 12:08] Gann McGann: hah snap Zo
[2018/08/16 12:08] Sheila Yoshikawa: I’ll just wait whilst you finish introducing yourselves
[2018/08/16 12:08] LuxTergeste: EFL teacher at high school, based in Italy. Teacher trainer and ICT support person at my school.
[2018/08/16 12:08] Zo (zotarah.shepherd): Thank you Maggie
[2018/08/16 12:09] Zo (zotarah.shepherd): Thank you Gann
[2018/08/16 12:09] Marly (marly.milena): Niela Miller, M.S. Education/Communications- Gestalt therapist, composer, musician, artist, actor, educator, trainer, coach, educational designer, facilitator. In SL since 2007. Founder: Octagon:Creative Exploration/ Creator of Symbolic Modeling (SymMods) in SL. See http://www.peoplesystemspotential.com for more.
[2018/08/16 12:09] Sheila Yoshikawa: I’m a faculty member at the University of Sheffield, UK, in the Information School, and my love is information literacy
[2018/08/16 12:09] Sheila Yoshikawa: I will very briefly introduce our panellists, but they may say some more about themselves when they answer the first question.
[2018/08/16 12:09] Miss Basque (berdaxagar): Stella M Berdaxagar, globally connected teacher from Argentina. I teach ESL. I am an ICT Specialist, flipper and content curator.
[2018/08/16 12:09] Sheila Yoshikawa: or now in chat
[2018/08/16 12:10] Sheila Yoshikawa: By the way I had set some wind chimes to tinkle overther
[2018/08/16 12:10] Edward Tarber: IT entrepreneur and virtual world creator from Germany
[2018/08/16 12:10] Sheila Yoshikawa: if they are really annoying you, say
[2018/08/16 12:10] Sheila Yoshikawa: and I will click them off
[2018/08/16 12:10] AbnormalDead: I’m a victim of LL, they accused me to misrepresentation of LL employee and they terminated all my accounts, I lost 11 years of inventory & a pack of money, so now I’m sad and I project to go RL to Battery St. 945 to suicide by the LL office
[2018/08/16 12:10] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): @Gann are you @markinspired?
[2018/08/16 12:10] Sheila Yoshikawa: OK
[2018/08/16 12:10] Sheila Yoshikawa: I will start the panel now!
[2018/08/16 12:10] Sheila Yoshikawa: I will start with Heike
[2018/08/16 12:10] Gann McGann: @sheila is that what they are – i thought it was my tinnitus kicking in
[2018/08/16 12:11] Kali Pizzaro: you used to be Dr Evelyn McElhinney PhD, RN VWER co-lead I am a researcher and senior lecturer in nursing at Glasgow Caledonian University in Scotland. I did my whole Phd in SL you can find it here https://www.researchgate.net/publication/314506853_Living_in_3D_Social_Virtual_Worlds_and_the_Influence_on_Health_Literacy_Health_Behaviour_and_Wellbeing
[2018/08/16 12:11] Gann McGann: hi heike – no I’m not, just have the same name
[2018/08/16 12:11] Sheila Yoshikawa: What have you done in a VW that you are happiest with?
[2018/08/16 12:11] Sheila Yoshikawa: That’s the first question, over to Heike
[2018/08/16 12:11] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: Testing SpeakEasy
[2018/08/16 12:11] Gann McGann: @heike I’m@markchilds on twitter – beat @markinspired to it 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:11] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: —-
[2018/08/16 12:11] Maggie Larimore: not heariing anything as yet, is that ok?
[2018/08/16 12:11] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: I had the privilege to actually work and earn my living in RL in Second Life through EU funded projects.
[2018/08/16 12:12] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: The first one was AVALON, which stands for Access to Virtual and Action Learning Live Online and took place in 2009-2011.
[2018/08/16 12:12] Marly (marly.milena): Not hearing Heike.
[2018/08/16 12:12] Torgon Woodget: she’s using speakeasy – text output
[2018/08/16 12:12] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: A grand project lead by the University of Manchester with more than 10 project partners
[2018/08/16 12:12] Marly (marly.milena): Oh, that’s Gwen! LOL
[2018/08/16 12:12] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: and a 2-year period during which we learned to use virtual worlds for language education. The outcome was a teacher training course for language teachers.
[2018/08/16 12:12] Maggie Larimore: I thought we were doing both
[2018/08/16 12:12] Maggie Larimore: sorry
[2018/08/16 12:12] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: http://www.avalonlearning.eu
[2018/08/16 12:12] Sheila Yoshikawa: yes Heike aka Gwen
[2018/08/16 12:12] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: A little later came CAMELOT 2011-2013, again 2 years and this time we learned to create machinima.
[2018/08/16 12:12] Gann McGann: @gwen me too, for about two years – not quite so well-funded as EU though 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:12] Miss Basque (berdaxagar): I connected globally , learned new 21st Century skills and created multimedia content.
[2018/08/16 12:12] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: CAMELOT stands for CreAting Machinima Empowers Live ONline language teaching and Learning.
[2018/08/16 12:12] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: http://www.camelotproject.eu
[2018/08/16 12:13] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: The latest EU funded project currently is GUINEVERE
[2018/08/16 12:13] Gann McGann: Mine was the Theatron3 project
[2018/08/16 12:13] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: Games Used IN Engaging Virtual Environments for Real-time language Education
[2018/08/16 12:13] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: GUINEVERE started December 2017 and will run 2 years again and we learn everything about building games in virtual worlds.
[2018/08/16 12:13] Gann McGann: but that’s an amazing run Gwen – I am v. impressed
[2018/08/16 12:13] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: http://www.guinevereproject.eu
[2018/08/16 12:13] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: These days we spend a lot of time in Minecraft and OpenSim. Second Life is included though.
[2018/08/16 12:13] Kali Pizzaro: brill
[2018/08/16 12:13] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: Minecraft is a lot of fun.
[2018/08/16 12:14] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: —-
[2018/08/16 12:14] Sheila Yoshikawa: sure seems it!
[2018/08/16 12:14] Zo (zotarah.shepherd): I was happiest with meeting so many great educators who use VWs to teach. Also my Multiple Intelligence build, my educational Island Miralonde and my work on the old teen grid.
[2018/08/16 12:14] Maggie Larimore: no
[2018/08/16 12:14] Sheila Yoshikawa: no
[2018/08/16 12:14] Torgon Woodget: voice no
[2018/08/16 12:14] Kali Pizzaro: oops
[2018/08/16 12:14] Gann McGann: @zo – what a pity the teen grid was pulled – Schome was excellent
[2018/08/16 12:15] Maggie Larimore: good!
[2018/08/16 12:15] Maggie Larimore: people watching the video tend to leave without voice
[2018/08/16 12:15] Kali Pizzaro: I was happy with the project I did with volunteers playing patients and allowing my student to take their health history. However. I found doing my PhD research the most interesting and enjoyable the honesty and generosity of the participants was fantastic and I really enjoyed creating and using the innovative methods for data collection. Beyond that meeting. Fantastic and interesting people.
[2018/08/16 12:17] Sheila Yoshikawa: I will be typing in the text that Marly has given me
[2018/08/16 12:17] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:17] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: Hi folks! Thanks for coming today! Rather than taking any time talking about my background, I suggest you go to my website later to explore the many facets of my being. http://www.peoplesystemspotential.com
[2018/08/16 12:17] Zussa Ryba: I used SL as an ex of VWorlds in my pre college teaching in social science – met 3 of my students here, but they were abused back to real life… sad to say, and I never repeated that experiment
[2018/08/16 12:17] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I don’t do anything in SL that does not make me happy!
[2018/08/16 12:17] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): Marly’s bio is awesome: M.S. Education/Communications- Gestalt therapist, composer, musician, artist, actor, educator, trainer, coach, educational designer, facilitator.
[2018/08/16 12:18] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I have developed a unique method of using the available building and other technology in SL called Symbolic Modeling, or SymMods for short and have created a working collaborative team to produce a series of short films showing how it can be applied to educational, creative and personal development goals.
[2018/08/16 12:18] Maggie Larimore: life is better here Zussa now that the adult grid is separate from us
[2018/08/16 12:18] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I am looking forward to using these films as training tools and material for discussions about creative process which is my main passion. I will be inviting learners to have a variety of experiences based on the films. I really enjoy making this tool available to those who like to play with metaphor and symbols to extract meaning.
[2018/08/16 12:18] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I have developed different programs using this approach and That has been the most fun for me here. I have also really enjoyed setting up my gallery to house my art and a workshop space with the creations of others and inviting people to play with the images for greater self-understanding. I love that kind of exploration and continue to derive great satisfaction from these activities.
[2018/08/16 12:19] Sheila Yoshikawa: she loves combining arts and education
[2018/08/16 12:19] Zussa Ryba: have you been to the Social Islands where virtually all the newbies arrive now? Who rules there? Abusers!!
[2018/08/16 12:19] Sheila Yoshikawa: Done she says!
[2018/08/16 12:19] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): hehe
[2018/08/16 12:19] Sheila Yoshikawa: So – are there any questions for the panellists on that first question?
[2018/08/16 12:19] Maggie Larimore: ‘ve been several times in recent yeas and luckily all was okay
[2018/08/16 12:19] Sheila Yoshikawa: Or your own responses
[2018/08/16 12:19] Sheila Yoshikawa: If anyone wants to type in quickly THEIR response to the question “What have you done in a VW that you are happiest with? ” then do so
[2018/08/16 12:20] Sheila Yoshikawa: sorry I can’t type fast and speak at the same time!
[2018/08/16 12:20] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): yes pls, I would love to hear this too
[2018/08/16 12:20] Maggie Larimore: like, Marly virtually everything I do makes me happy
[2018/08/16 12:20] Zussa Ryba: I once had an educational sim here, but the LL put up tier prices and dollar went up and our money down, so that was that…
[2018/08/16 12:20] Sheila Yoshikawa: 😉 Maggie
[2018/08/16 12:20] Marly (marly.milena): There may be more questions later after we answer the other two questions!
[2018/08/16 12:21] Sheila Yoshikawa: lol yes
[2018/08/16 12:21] Gann McGann: the projects, some teaching, looking at students’ learning. meeting the person I married
[2018/08/16 12:21] Maggie Larimore: yes, this round was wondeful to get a handle on what everybody’s done
[2018/08/16 12:21] Liriel (quippe.wylder): A colorful model of Joseph Campbell’s Hero Journey that a small group worked with for years. I passed leadership to someone else now.
[2018/08/16 12:21] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): my research in three-dimensional immersive digital environments
[2018/08/16 12:21] Maggie Larimore: ah nice, Gann!
[2018/08/16 12:21] Sheila Yoshikawa: or if there are no questions we finish early haha
[2018/08/16 12:21] Maggie Larimore: I brought my husband inworld, took him a month of looking over my shoulder to take the plunge 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:21] Sheila Yoshikawa: oo yes Gann, meeting your future wife must score highly ;-))
[2018/08/16 12:22] Marly (marly.milena): Or we could speak in more detail about our projects! 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:22] Gann McGann: how has your work here been received by the institutions you work at? or is that irrelevant
[2018/08/16 12:22] Sheila Yoshikawa: The second question is
[2018/08/16 12:22] Sheila Yoshikawa: – What are the features of the VW you are using that are particularly suited to what you want to do?
[2018/08/16 12:22] Gann McGann: ok, poor timing on my part :-/
[2018/08/16 12:22] Maggie Larimore: yay! always love to her Heiki’s voice
[2018/08/16 12:23] Kali Pizzaro: you are welcome
[2018/08/16 12:23] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: For language teaching and learning in Second Life, OpenSim and Minecraft we enjoy building and scripting our own scenarios and games.
[2018/08/16 12:23] Sheila Yoshikawa: Heike says she is privileged to be here 😉
[2018/08/16 12:23] Maggie Larimore: it’s true 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:23] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: My partner Randall Sadler aka Randall Renoir of the University of Illionois created some 100 holodecks on EduNation which teachers use for role-playing.
[2018/08/16 12:23] AbnormalDead: sure
[2018/08/16 12:23] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): oooo
[2018/08/16 12:23] Maggie Larimore: wow
[2018/08/16 12:23] AbnormalDead: it’s a privilege to be here by Heike
[2018/08/16 12:24] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: There are libraries, bus stop, forest setting, a boutique, seasonal scenes such as winter scenes etc.
[2018/08/16 12:24] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): wow
[2018/08/16 12:24] Kali Pizzaro: woo
[2018/08/16 12:24] AbnormalDead: zeker ja
[2018/08/16 12:24] Sheila Yoshikawa: Heike also said that the combination of voice and text is really useful for language learning
[2018/08/16 12:24] Zussa Ryba: many of us cant use voice because were not alone at home and we want to keep this world secret from our lifetime rl partners…
[2018/08/16 12:24] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: In our GUINEVERE OpenSim island we created a castle and there is a medieval quest.
[2018/08/16 12:24] Kali Pizzaro: haha Zusse
[2018/08/16 12:24] Kali Pizzaro: Zussa
[2018/08/16 12:24] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: There is also a machinima island, with scenes to create machinima, roleplaying a crazy hotel reception and others.
[2018/08/16 12:24] Sheila Yoshikawa: that is in Opensim
[2018/08/16 12:24] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: In Minecraft the kids who join us build like crazy. There are cities, restaurants, pyramid, a crashed spaceship, parcours, a melody park and many others.
[2018/08/16 12:25] AbnormalDead: yes, personally my RL partner is a tuna in aquarium, she dunno that I’m SL
[2018/08/16 12:25] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: Minecraft in survival mode is limited in resources (inventory) and one has to mine and chop wood and create tools to start off with.
[2018/08/16 12:25] Miss Basque (berdaxagar): It certainly is. I enjoyed Machinevo.
[2018/08/16 12:25] Zussa Ryba: but i admit.. i learned and still learning portuguese here and i keep my other languages uptodate..
[2018/08/16 12:25] Gann McGann: yes a little
[2018/08/16 12:25] Maggie Larimore: just bumbling around during one of our previous SLMOOC events
[2018/08/16 12:26] AbnormalDead: portuguese!!! nice, me I learned a lot about guns btw of SL
[2018/08/16 12:26] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: Then you start to have animals to get their produce (eggs, wool etc.) which help you build further stuff.
[2018/08/16 12:26] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: Minecraft in creative mode is fun too because one can go wild on building.
[2018/08/16 12:26] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: Both is a lot of fun and when people are saying that they are put off by the graphics, we now learned to install socalled texture packs which turn these large pixels into nice graphics.
[2018/08/16 12:26] Sheila Yoshikawa: like the idea of going wild on building!
[2018/08/16 12:26] Sheila Yoshikawa: ahh what a good idea
[2018/08/16 12:26] Maggie Larimore: wow!!!
[2018/08/16 12:26] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): I love what you do In Gwen, my most sincere congratulations
[2018/08/16 12:27] LuxTergeste: wow
[2018/08/16 12:27] Zussa Ryba: oOo
[2018/08/16 12:27] Kali Pizzaro: ha but are the children ruining it
[2018/08/16 12:27] Sheila Yoshikawa: Minecraft 9 million times larger than planet earth!
[2018/08/16 12:27] AbnormalDead: bravo Gwen
[2018/08/16 12:27] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: —-
[2018/08/16 12:27] Sheila Yoshikawa: says Heike
[2018/08/16 12:27] AbnormalDead: we love U !
[2018/08/16 12:27] Maggie Larimore: incredible!
[2018/08/16 12:27] Kali Pizzaro: destroying it…..
[2018/08/16 12:27] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): 900 million times
[2018/08/16 12:27] Kali Pizzaro: – the immersive, visual, auditory and avatar – based environment allows excellent simulation and interesting place and embodied identity is josh facilitated recall of information, sense making and when done socially collecting intelligence and distributed co- created knowledge
[2018/08/16 12:27] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): yes Sheila
[2018/08/16 12:28] Sheila Yoshikawa: “so much more engaging than flat” (2D) says Kali
[2018/08/16 12:28] Sheila Yoshikawa: also she says e.g. sense of flying through information
[2018/08/16 12:29] Sheila Yoshikawa: and getting the collaborative approach
[2018/08/16 12:29] Sheila Yoshikawa: getting into a group that is positive and collaborative
[2018/08/16 12:29] Sheila Yoshikawa: also intergenerational
[2018/08/16 12:29] Sheila Yoshikawa: and have a lot of collective intelligence and knowledge to share
[2018/08/16 12:29] AbnormalDead: voila
[2018/08/16 12:30] Sheila Yoshikawa: that MAY also include negative (this is all what Kali says)
[2018/08/16 12:30] Sheila Yoshikawa: but one can then leave the group!
[2018/08/16 12:30] AbnormalDead: it’s a question of interpretation
[2018/08/16 12:30] Sheila Yoshikawa: That kind of positive affirmation
[2018/08/16 12:30] Sheila Yoshikawa: that you are appreciated
[2018/08/16 12:30] Sheila Yoshikawa: makes it egalitarian
[2018/08/16 12:30] Sheila Yoshikawa: there is not an expectation that you have to have a “title”
[2018/08/16 12:30] Sheila Yoshikawa: so not a major hierarchy
[2018/08/16 12:31] AbnormalDead: ain’t nothing “negative”, every kind of people can feed our own edification
[2018/08/16 12:31] Sheila Yoshikawa: more an environment of sharing
[2018/08/16 12:31] Sheila Yoshikawa: so there’s a bigger symbolic feeling of belonging
[2018/08/16 12:31] AbnormalDead: even Linden
[2018/08/16 12:31] Sheila Yoshikawa: more than just the individual
[2018/08/16 12:31] Sheila Yoshikawa: so that can spin to some amazing projects!
[2018/08/16 12:31] Gann McGann: I think that sense of belonging extends to the people you know irl as well
[2018/08/16 12:31] Kali Pizzaro: exactly
[2018/08/16 12:31] Maggie Larimore: I agree so true
[2018/08/16 12:31] Gann McGann: always a sense of camaraderie when you meet them offline
[2018/08/16 12:32] Sheila Yoshikawa: yes positive or negative – what you make of it!
[2018/08/16 12:32] Sheila Yoshikawa: now hand over to Marly
[2018/08/16 12:32] Sheila Yoshikawa: but I will type in the text she’s given me
[2018/08/16 12:32] Sheila Yoshikawa: “Ditto ditto” she says
[2018/08/16 12:32] Kali Pizzaro: Yes Gann
[2018/08/16 12:33] Sheila Yoshikawa: She says the major thing is mining people’s creativity
[2018/08/16 12:33] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: The Building capabilities provide the technology for developing my SymMod approach, also , a web drawing screen that can be used inworld, I do a workshop called Visions of Self in my gallery which I referred to earlier.
[2018/08/16 12:33] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I could not afford to have a gallery and workshop space like this out there. And, on another sim, I have a house and gardens which I play with and enjoy inviting people tto visit and have great talks.
[2018/08/16 12:33] Kali Pizzaro: that is a great point Marly
[2018/08/16 12:33] Kali Pizzaro: cost
[2018/08/16 12:34] Sheila Yoshikawa: Sheila says: I have a whole string of houses lol
[2018/08/16 12:34] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I like the bartering and collaborative spirit here which makes it much easier to exchange talents, skills, space, etc. which is a feature that suits my nature and is not so easy to do Out There.
[2018/08/16 12:34] AbnormalDead: I banned all Linden, Mole & Tester off my street gallery
[2018/08/16 12:34] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: The film project we have been developing will be housed in a special fantasy tree area making use of building technology. The whole project which we have been working on for months is fully collaborative. We are calling it the Octagon Cinema Grove which will open to the SL public in the fall.
[2018/08/16 12:34] Maggie Larimore: that’s me and my husband too, we couldn’t afford a physical space in the RL for our library, so the affordances here are fantastic, and even better financially in open sim worlds
[2018/08/16 12:35] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly wants to create different kinds of learning environment
[2018/08/16 12:35] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I am especially grateful for the ability to collaborate with people who are geographically distant. The ability to reach people all over the world is also a valuable feature.
[2018/08/16 12:35] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I also love being able to bring arts lovers together for unique programs using musicians and artists who improvise to each other’s creations in real time.
[2018/08/16 12:35] Kali Pizzaro: yes Global Marly great
[2018/08/16 12:35] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: The programs I do here have elements of what I have done during my long career out there but could not be duplicated there in the same way.
[2018/08/16 12:35] Kali Pizzaro: creating digital citienship
[2018/08/16 12:35] Kali Pizzaro: lol
[2018/08/16 12:35] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: For the artists and musicians, it is an opportunity to try out their ideas spontaneously and be supported by an enthusiastic audience that can also participate. That does not often happen in regular life.
[2018/08/16 12:35] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:36] Sheila Yoshikawa: so you aren’t being passive, she says
[2018/08/16 12:36] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I am also a regular member of VWER, The Roadside Philosophers and my own Whole Brain Health collective on Inspiration Island which all satisfy my need for exchanging ideas and experiences with colleagues and kindred spirits on a consistent basis since I am retired and live alone.
[2018/08/16 12:36] Sheila Yoshikawa: Thanks Marly!
[2018/08/16 12:37] Camie Rembrandt: I’d like to retrieve a question by Gann McGann (I don’t think it was answered):
[12:22] Gann McGann: how has your work here been received by the institutions you work at? or is that irrelevant
[2018/08/16 12:37] Sheila Yoshikawa: Heike is saying she is self employed
[2018/08/16 12:37] Sheila Yoshikawa: she has clients that are institutions
[2018/08/16 12:37] Sheila Yoshikawa: but other than that no
[2018/08/16 12:38] Kali Pizzaro: ok but they wanted it to be a silver bullet like most tech
[2018/08/16 12:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: Kali says:
[2018/08/16 12:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: it was an issue
[2018/08/16 12:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: there was support
[2018/08/16 12:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: but they wanted it to do everything
[2018/08/16 12:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: be innovative
[2018/08/16 12:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: but everyone had to be able to use it
[2018/08/16 12:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: and that didn’t work
[2018/08/16 12:38] Sheila Yoshikawa: that doesn’t work
[2018/08/16 12:39] AbnormalDead: the end is at hand, but pls folks, don’t pay attention to
[2018/08/16 12:39] Sheila Yoshikawa: unless you have a dull boring virtual learning platform (e.g. Blackboard, Sheila would say)
[2018/08/16 12:39] Kali Pizzaro: however here is the key my motto is Proceed until apprehended
[2018/08/16 12:39] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:39] Sheila Yoshikawa: lol a good motto Kali
[2018/08/16 12:39] Marly (marly.milena): I have been an external trainer and consultant for most of my career so, once they buy into what I am offering, I have carte blanche.
[2018/08/16 12:39] Sheila Yoshikawa: so Kali says she does what she wants to do til they tell her not to
[2018/08/16 12:39] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:39] Sheila Yoshikawa: and by then she has perhaps published a paper or whatever
[2018/08/16 12:40] Sheila Yoshikawa: which can make them think perhaps it is ok!
[2018/08/16 12:40] Torgon Woodget: 😀 easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission?
[2018/08/16 12:40] Gann McGann: that’s true everywhere 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:40] Kali Pizzaro: Exact;y
[2018/08/16 12:40] Kali Pizzaro: yes
[2018/08/16 12:40] Gann McGann: though have been “let go” so many times now – i’m beginning to wonder if it’s a successful strategy
[2018/08/16 12:40] Sheila Yoshikawa: I was just asking Marly
[2018/08/16 12:41] Maggie Larimore: when it comes to VW I’m also self-employed
[2018/08/16 12:41] Sheila Yoshikawa: yes she types in above
[2018/08/16 12:41] Sheila Yoshikawa: that she can do what she wants
[2018/08/16 12:41] Maggie Larimore: 🙂 Marly
[2018/08/16 12:41] Sheila Yoshikawa: and she does!
[2018/08/16 12:41] Liriel (quippe.wylder): Is that because you do art, Marley?
[2018/08/16 12:41] Kali Pizzaro: Sure Gann but I have full time permanent and do lots of other things they do not have many folks to do…..
[2018/08/16 12:41] AbnormalDead: Volkswagen?
[2018/08/16 12:41] Maggie Larimore: virtual worlds
[2018/08/16 12:41] Sheila Yoshikawa: if one dares to take risks in those settings, Marly says, the learners never forget
[2018/08/16 12:41] AbnormalDead: ah ok
[2018/08/16 12:42] Sheila Yoshikawa: so most of what she does is experiential
[2018/08/16 12:42] Maggie Larimore: she’s liberated … 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:42] ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Once you hear a lecture on swimming, you never forget what you learned about lecture
[2018/08/16 12:42] AbnormalDead: so I use to call this a live cartoon, or at the limit a metaverse
[2018/08/16 12:43] Kali Pizzaro: She is trying to work out what I mean
[2018/08/16 12:43] Kali Pizzaro: lol
[2018/08/16 12:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: marly says she does lots of things other than art
[2018/08/16 12:43] Kali Pizzaro: lol Selby
[2018/08/16 12:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: she aims to understand what they need
[2018/08/16 12:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: and designs something to meet that need
[2018/08/16 12:43] Liriel (quippe.wylder): Sorry, I only know what you do here.
[2018/08/16 12:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: it won’t always involve arts processes
[2018/08/16 12:43] Sheila Yoshikawa: that’s ok!
[2018/08/16 12:43] Maggie Larimore: Liriel Marly’s going to do a session for us in the VWMOOC on her work, it’s coming up on the calendar
[2018/08/16 12:44] Sheila Yoshikawa: So we move on to question 3
[2018/08/16 12:44] Sheila Yoshikawa: What project or teaching would you do in a VW if you had vast resources (e.g. enough to buy computers/access/facilities for learners, not just resources for development)
[2018/08/16 12:44] Liriel (quippe.wylder): Yippee, Maggie.
[2018/08/16 12:44] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:45] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: If I had a lot of money, or if someone like Google would support it, I would like to have a Google avatar.
[2018/08/16 12:45] Sheila Yoshikawa: heike says that would be a nice question for the audience to answer to
[2018/08/16 12:45] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: This Google avatar could walk Google Street View and can use the camera controls to see Google Earth.
[2018/08/16 12:45] AbnormalDead: I agree
[2018/08/16 12:45] Maggie Larimore: cool!
[2018/08/16 12:45] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: This avatar would be able to speak to others whom he/ she meets in the streets, at a pub, in a museum.
[2018/08/16 12:45] Kali Pizzaro: fab
[2018/08/16 12:45] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: It would be able to enter a shop on 5th Ave and buy some clothes.
[2018/08/16 12:45] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:45] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: It would be able to go enter an office building in Tokyo to conduct a business meeting.
[2018/08/16 12:46] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: It would be able to teleport to Italy to attend an Italian class by an Italian teacher in Florence who takes them on tours through the town.
[2018/08/16 12:46] Gann McGann: ooh and if people had an AR app if they were in the RL place they could see your avatar – that would be neat
[2018/08/16 12:46] Zussa Ryba: you can do all that here now… you should explore more…
[2018/08/16 12:46] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: I would also like Google to create a ‘parallel universe’, a parallel earth, one which we can build on. Recreate the cities to become beautiful places.
[2018/08/16 12:46] Maggie Larimore: My husband wants to be able to teleport us to dinner in Paris 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:46] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: Invite city planners to recreate some of the cities all over again. This time without historic restrictions.
[2018/08/16 12:46] Gwen Gwasi: shouts: What do you think, how would this world be like?
[2018/08/16 12:46] Kali Pizzaro: oh
[2018/08/16 12:46] Kali Pizzaro: and no rain for Scotland
[2018/08/16 12:46] Gann McGann: Or maybe a parallel mars we could build on
[2018/08/16 12:47] Marly (marly.milena): @Maggie—oo la la!
[2018/08/16 12:47] Sheila Yoshikawa: lol Kali
[2018/08/16 12:47] Kali Pizzaro: or just a bit
[2018/08/16 12:47] Torgon Woodget: more snow, kali ?
[2018/08/16 12:47] Sheila Yoshikawa: oooh
[2018/08/16 12:47] Kali Pizzaro: ha
[2018/08/16 12:47] Kali Pizzaro: ok so me?
[2018/08/16 12:47] AbnormalDead: so personally I’m living in Monaco but I prefer Hoboken in NJ
[2018/08/16 12:47] Maggie Larimore: oh Kali rain in Scotland brings double rainbows, how about just rain every morning for 30 minutes before the morning commute!
[2018/08/16 12:47] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:47] Zussa Ryba: one day SL will be built by holograms like the worlds in Star Trek…avatars in natural sizes who you could shake hands with- scaring
[2018/08/16 12:47] Kali Pizzaro: sorry I would probably do several. I would repeat the simulation problem based project I did before and I would do research around out of world and inworld restorative health benefits of virtual nature which I hope to put in a proposal soon for. I would also do something around young people’s health literacy created with them
[2018/08/16 12:47] Sheila Yoshikawa: and over to Kali
[2018/08/16 12:47] ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): All the would be a school
[2018/08/16 12:47] ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): world
[2018/08/16 12:47] Sheila Yoshikawa: for her answer
[2018/08/16 12:48] Gann McGann: voice isn’t on, Kali
[2018/08/16 12:48] Maggie Larimore: can’t hear you Kali
[2018/08/16 12:48] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:49] Maggie Larimore: yes
[2018/08/16 12:49] Sheila Yoshikawa: she said she would like to co create with the children
[2018/08/16 12:49] Sheila Yoshikawa: to make it participative
[2018/08/16 12:49] ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): yes -heard
[2018/08/16 12:49] Kali Pizzaro: lovely
[2018/08/16 12:49] Sheila Yoshikawa: and lots more she’d like to do!
[2018/08/16 12:49] Sheila Yoshikawa: thanks!
[2018/08/16 12:50] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: Let me preface this by saying that the most precious resource is time and, unfortunately, that is something there’s just too little of for most people.
[2018/08/16 12:50] Kali Pizzaro: 😉
[2018/08/16 12:50] Sheila Yoshikawa: Sheila agrees
[2018/08/16 12:50] Maggie Larimore: so true
[2018/08/16 12:50] Zussa Ryba: thats true
[2018/08/16 12:50] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: My students or learners have to be sought out, unlike those working in institutions where educators have a built in learning population.
[2018/08/16 12:50] AbnormalDead: and money
[2018/08/16 12:50] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I would hire someone whose full time job it was to scour SL and the web to find matches for the type of programs and trainings we offer (combining arts processes with psychology and education) to advertise my services all over SL and outside through social media and by contacting kindred spirits through their websites, possibly visiting art centers and universities to entice people to try out a virtual world environment.
[2018/08/16 12:51] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I already have a great team consisting of a Program Manager, a Tech Manager, and a Design
Manager who have spent years, months and/or hours in collaboration with me== developing programs, processes and products but they have other fish to fry in their regular lives so, for me, vast resources would mean having additional people with the requisite skills and the time to devote to developing these programs for optimum accessibility and impact.
[2018/08/16 12:51] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: My bonds to my current helpers are deep and abiding so this would be an addition which would also make their jobs easier.
[2018/08/16 12:52] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I would also train a team of educators, social workers, artists, trainers to focus on orienting elders to SL in Councils on Aging on websites across the US and the equivalent in other places with the purpose of eradicating isolation and promoting lifelong learning and creative expression and experimentation.
I would want to support the idea of creative elders as Living Treasures which is much more prevalent in other cultures like Japan but not so much in the US which worships youth…although there have been some hopeful signs in recent years.
[2018/08/16 12:52] Kali Pizzaro: love that
[2018/08/16 12:52] Sheila Yoshikawa: Sheila likes the idea of being a living treasure lol
[2018/08/16 12:52] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I would also create a group of ongoing learners consisting of educators, coaches, and other people professionals interested in experiencing a mixture of personal and professional development using my resources as a Gestalt therapist, multi-artist and organization development trainer and consultant .
[2018/08/16 12:52] AbnormalDead: ok but mind ’bout the sub reality of SL grid, ya know, this “Your World. Your Imagination” realm is nothing more than the exacerbated mirror of reality, and therefore in it the worst and the best of human nature. But beyond gender-based violence issues and other shameless exploitation of perversion, another question arises: whom and why ultimately bear the cost of basic accounts? Without going to the extreme of some conspiracy theory, it is questionable whether Premium memberships alone fund the operating costs and the profit margin. This is not senseless questioning when one takes into consideration the fact that Second life grid is probably the most efficient tool to practice some illegal activities, covert communication and trafficking of all kinds. Sure, away from prying eyes, under the alibi dollhouses where superficial fashion figurines go about their daily fictional lives, meanwhile beneath the surface of substitutes just seems to be some wrong real things happening.
[2018/08/16 12:53] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: would set it up so that each person was able to make use of his or her own expertise as a facilitator over time.
[2018/08/16 12:53] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: We would support each other in experimenting with the processes we practiced ourselves and come back together on a regular basis to report our experiences and learn from each other. I am already planning
to create a training program for a small group interested in learning how to use SymMods in their own arenas.
[2018/08/16 12:53] Maggie Larimore: me too … much better than having your elbow grabbed when you want to walk downstairs or getting the eye roll because you’ve lost yourself are telling yet another story about the 50s …. 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:53] Maggie Larimore: Sheila… on being a living treasure. 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:54] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: Theoretically, I could do all this without vast resources but finding the people takes time, and is made difficult by missing features in the SL Search engine so maybe I would want to start there by having technical wizards create a matrix of cross-referenced searching.
[2018/08/16 12:54] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): wow
[2018/08/16 12:54] Maggie Larimore: wow what a cool idea
[2018/08/16 12:54] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: Considering how vast the population of SL is, I am willing to bet there are all sorts of people who would want to participate in our programs, if only we could find them! I value collaborations with people like Liss and Valibrarian as we develop programs and processes that expand the potentials of this world for lifelong learners, for educators, and for regular folks.
[2018/08/16 12:54] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I must confess that I am not all that interested in staying ahead of the technology curve. I have already lived a long life filled with discoveries based on human potential and, at this point, am much more interested in the exploration of creative process with whoever shows up here,
[2018/08/16 12:55] Sheila Yoshikawa: learning about myself and others and different cultures, and practicing arts processes. Second Life is a great playground for that and I have no desire to go where there are not already populations of eager learners wanting to learn, share and collaborate.
[2018/08/16 12:55] Sheila Yoshikawa: Marly: I rest my case!
[2018/08/16 12:55] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:55] Gann McGann: 🙂
[2018/08/16 12:55] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): clap clap
[2018/08/16 12:55] Kali Pizzaro: clap clap
[2018/08/16 12:55] Kali Pizzaro: thank you all for coming and listening
[2018/08/16 12:55] Torgon Woodget: *applause*
[2018/08/16 12:55] Zussa Ryba: BRAVO!!
[2018/08/16 12:55] Maggie Larimore: wonderful and insightful comments everybody, just great!
[2018/08/16 12:56] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): I would like to post this question to this great audience:
[2018/08/16 12:56] Maggie Larimore: bravo!!!!
[2018/08/16 12:56] Gann McGann: *applause*
[2018/08/16 12:56] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): what would you do with tons of money?
[2018/08/16 12:56] ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Great presentations.
[2018/08/16 12:56] Edward Tarber: great panel discussion
[2018/08/16 12:56] Zo (zotarah.shepherd): Thank you All very interesting answers.
[2018/08/16 12:56] Camie Rembrandt: *applause*
[2018/08/16 12:56] Maggie Larimore: get a staff to help me put my libraries all over the metaverse, and a VWMOOC headquarter
[2018/08/16 12:56] Maggie Larimore: too to get students at other places
[2018/08/16 12:56] Gann McGann: but then the same’s true of RL
[2018/08/16 12:57] Kali Pizzaro: indeed Gann
[2018/08/16 12:57] Sheila Yoshikawa: So we ask you in the audience: What project or teaching would you do in a VW if you had vast resources (e.g. enough to buy computers/access/facilities for learners, not just resources for development)
[2018/08/16 12:57] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): wonderful bravo… great presentations
[2018/08/16 12:57] Sheila Yoshikawa: what would you do?
[2018/08/16 12:57] Zussa Ryba: i would build my education and helping sim back again
[2018/08/16 12:57] Dex Euromat: Invent a digitizer machine that brings electronic matter to real life
[2018/08/16 12:57] Sheila Yoshikawa: same as heike or kali or Marly? something different
[2018/08/16 12:57] Zussa Ryba: 350 us dollars a month in tier is just too much
[2018/08/16 12:57] Elli Pinion: Definitely build – offer areas for educators to use for free
[2018/08/16 12:57] Pionia Destiny: bring students to build their own projects
[2018/08/16 12:57] Sheila Yoshikawa: actually I rather like the idea of combining all three visions
[2018/08/16 12:57] Sheila Yoshikawa: 😉
[2018/08/16 12:57] Zo (zotarah.shepherd): I would rebuild my educational sim and expand it for other educators to use
[2018/08/16 12:58] AbnormalDead: voila, c’est la fin du monde même en virtuel
[2018/08/16 12:58] Marly (marly.milena): If anyone present would be interested in being part of my training group later (probably early next year) please let me know and my Program Manager will keep you posted
[2018/08/16 12:58] Sheila Yoshikawa: if I had the money I would give it to you
[2018/08/16 12:58] Gann McGann: i’m interested in linking physical and virtual spaces – making avatars present IRL, physical selves present in SL
[2018/08/16 12:58] LuxTergeste: @Zussa, why don’t you try Opensim? It is much cheaper
[2018/08/16 12:58] Liriel (quippe.wylder): I know a six sim build that I would give the money to save. One person is paying for it now and that’s not fair.
[2018/08/16 12:58] Sheila Yoshikawa: after keeping some for me
[2018/08/16 12:58] Maggie Larimore: I have two libraries, an the VWMOOC Headquarters, I would want to have a staff to help me replicate them all over the metaverse with VWMOOCHQs as well so that we can teach in more places and bring students into different worlds
[2018/08/16 12:58] Elli Pinion: Love that, Sheila!
[2018/08/16 12:58] Zussa Ryba: Opensims – are they here still?
[2018/08/16 12:58] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): I would like to collaborate with all of you
[2018/08/16 12:58] Zussa Ryba: i thought they were gone
[2018/08/16 12:58] Torgon Woodget: opensim is still around, and SL came down in prices quite a bit
[2018/08/16 12:58] Sheila Yoshikawa: @Liriel which one is that if you can say?
[2018/08/16 12:58] ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): I would develop and promote web-worlds because the can reach any one who can run a browser
[2018/08/16 12:58] Zussa Ryba: really? Ill investigate ㋡
[2018/08/16 12:58] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): in an educational project
[2018/08/16 12:58] AbnormalDead: sear Zussa, my opensin still open for U
[2018/08/16 12:58] Sheila Yoshikawa: also @Gann is that like augmented reality of something different?
[2018/08/16 12:58] AbnormalDead: dear*
[2018/08/16 12:58] LuxTergeste: @ Zussa, I have a safe school region in one, and some of them are thriving
[2018/08/16 12:58] Maggie Larimore: tons of opensims are still there, Zussa and new ones coming online every year, and now web-based worlds as well
[2018/08/16 12:59] Liriel (quippe.wylder): It’s a Tolkein tribute roleplay group called Sheriwood.
[2018/08/16 12:59] Zussa Ryba: please send me an offer.. anyone..
[2018/08/16 12:59] Torgon Woodget: thinkerer: there are… even combined web/client/VR
[2018/08/16 12:59] Zussa Ryba: but the gateways here do a great job
[2018/08/16 12:59] Gann McGann: yes @sheila, blending AR VR, RL, VWs
[2018/08/16 12:59] Sheila Yoshikawa: Selby mentioned webworlds, which I think we’ve had a session on in the VWMOOC?
[2018/08/16 13:00] Sheila Yoshikawa: though obviously Selby himself is involved in webworlds
[2018/08/16 13:00] Dex Euromat: I participate in e-learning project, philosophy and aesthetics lectures in my first language.
[2018/08/16 13:00] Maggie Larimore: I have avatars in Digiworldz, Kitley, EurekaWorld , webworldz and with our course will be getting one somewhere else I forgot (have to look at the schedule), altho my base is here in SL
[2018/08/16 13:00] Gann McGann: i like the idea of stretching what our virtual personas can do, what they can interact with
[2018/08/16 13:00] Dex Euromat: So that would help us make the place bigger
[2018/08/16 13:00] Maggie Larimore: yep we’re having three sessions actually
[2018/08/16 13:00] Dex Euromat: for more people to come
[2018/08/16 13:00] ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): Zussa — you have a place on my creative collaborators island
[2018/08/16 13:00] Gann McGann: i think i want to be Gann in places where at the moment i have to be mark
[2018/08/16 13:00] Zussa Ryba: ㋡
[2018/08/16 13:00] Zussa Ryba: youre a true friend of mine, Thinkerer
[2018/08/16 13:00] Sheila Yoshikawa: @Gann that was the advantage of happening to choose to be Sheila in both worlds
[2018/08/16 13:01] Sheila Yoshikawa: lol though I know you don’t mean it exactly that way @Mark
[2018/08/16 13:01] Maggie Larimore: we had Dieter Heyne talk about web-based worlds for education, we’ve got Valibrarian and Yvonne deBandi talking about the development of such worlds here next week with a tour, and then at the end of the course Selby will be back again to talk about webworldz
[2018/08/16 13:01] Kali Pizzaro: Gann let’s talk
[2018/08/16 13:01] Zussa Ryba: but i gave up the OS world
[2018/08/16 13:01] Gann McGann: haha – yes true –
[2018/08/16 13:01] Sheila Yoshikawa: or @Gann
[2018/08/16 13:01] Maggie Larimore: lots of Webworldz in VWMOOC this year
[2018/08/16 13:01] Maggie Larimore: and Kitely, and Digiworldz, and Eureka World and CraftWorld (that’s the other one I forgot)
[2018/08/16 13:01] Marly (marly.milena): Come to my VWMOOC next week!
[2018/08/16 13:02] Maggie Larimore: thank you guys for everything
[2018/08/16 13:02] Gann McGann: yes thanks everyone
[2018/08/16 13:02] AbnormalDead: cool
[2018/08/16 13:02] Elli Pinion: Thank you all! Wonderful conversation!
[2018/08/16 13:02] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): I would like to collaborate with all of you in antes educational project…
[2018/08/16 13:02] Maggie Larimore: Nellie Deustch and Doris Molero my heros of VWMOOC
[2018/08/16 13:02] Kali Pizzaro: join our group VWER and come see us every week same time, same place
[2018/08/16 13:02] AbnormalDead: y a des frites là?
[2018/08/16 13:02] Maggie Larimore: thanks Sheila for your participation in our course, we’ll be back next week!
[2018/08/16 13:02] Zo (zotarah.shepherd): I always wonder when roleplay is used in virtual worlds based on works of published fiction if there is any copyright limitations or conflicts.
[2018/08/16 13:02] Kali Pizzaro: friend me if you wish and are not already
[2018/08/16 13:02] Kali Pizzaro: thank you
[2018/08/16 13:02] LuxTergeste: Thank you all!
[2018/08/16 13:02] ThinkererSelby Evans (thinkerer.melville): thanks everyone
[2018/08/16 13:02] Sheila Yoshikawa: Thanks everyone
[2018/08/16 13:02] Marly (marly.milena): Thanks Maggie and Sheila!
[2018/08/16 13:02] Maggie Larimore: bravo you guys
[2018/08/16 13:02] Sheila Yoshikawa: that’s the close of the session
[2018/08/16 13:02] Maggie Larimore: wondeful panel
[2018/08/16 13:02] LuxTergeste: applause!!!
[2018/08/16 13:02] AbnormalDead: ok
[2018/08/16 13:03] Miss Basque (berdaxagar): Thanks everyone!
[2018/08/16 13:03] AbnormalDead: vive l’amour
[2018/08/16 13:03] Sheila Yoshikawa: and remember we meet every week at the same time on this parcel
[2018/08/16 13:03] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): great session
[2018/08/16 13:03] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): thanks for inviting
[2018/08/16 13:03] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): me
[2018/08/16 13:03] Sheila Yoshikawa: indeed Abnormal
[2018/08/16 13:03] Maggie Larimore: and next week is another joint session with VWMOOC!
[2018/08/16 13:03] AbnormalDead: vive Heike
[2018/08/16 13:03] Maggie Larimore: 🙂
[2018/08/16 13:03] Marly (marly.milena): Great questions!
[2018/08/16 13:03] Torgon Woodget: yes, was quite informative
[2018/08/16 13:03] Dex Euromat: Thanks. that was interesting to hear 🙂
[2018/08/16 13:03] Heike Philp (gwen.gwasi): am still trying to make sense of what Dex meant
[2018/08/16 13:03] ecoonis – Christian Angel (ecoonis): thanks everyone
[2018/08/16 13:03] Maggie Larimore: just stopped the recoding thanks so much guys
[2018/08/16 13:03] Maggie Larimore: really wonderful

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